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用户Wiki:Demobanker/keeping track of some up-and-coming genres I'm interested in
用户Wiki:DemobankerThere are some music styles I'm interested in which have had huge developments in the 2010s and has an underground following with artists all around the world. However, they're pretty much unknown by the Touhou music scene or fans, so I made this page to keep track of their appearances in Touhou music!
Since this page will likely be a lot of people's introduction to those genres, I'm going to write a description of the genres. Then, to show the vibrancy and creativity on display in the genre, I'll note some 2010s developments in the genre.
Oh yeah, I'll also talk about Chinese artists making that genre and Chinese labels where you can find the genre. Cuz let's face it lol, if you're reading this wiki for music info instead of the EN Touhou wiki or TouhouDB, you probably are interested in learning about the country's local music scene. I wanna shill some dope local music to weebs. Maybe we can both get something out of this.
The genre descriptions will necessarily have references and links to other genres and artists. For genre links, I'm linking to the corresponding genre page on the music database Rate Your Music where possible. I've been using that site to explore music for the past few years, and for the most part, the genre descriptions are well-written and researched. Artist links will go to music.
(note: I'm not adding instances where the genre appears for like 10 seconds in a track that goes through a whole bunch of genres at once - that's the least interesting way you could do to make them appear on this list anyways - it's the equivalent of one of those eclectic prog rock bands that says they do genres like cabaret and hip hop and funk but the result turns out to be the most surface level understanding of said genres.)
Footwork
"do NOT interrupt a man when he's 4th of july footwerking" - wayneradiotv, dancing to DJ Yung Tell'em's GOD Bless the U.S.A. RYM genre pages on footwork, footwork jungle
Footwork is an EDM subgenre that features chaotic and frantic rhythms made with sub-bass and percussion. It usually has a lot of sampling, and common instruments are snares, tom drums, and handclaps. The genre was developed in 1990s Chicago from juke, a subgenre of ghetto house that's fast and features syncopated rhythms unconventional for house music. Footwork extends juke by taking away the 4/4 kick, pushing away from its house music roots. While the focus on complex rhythmic percussions is similar to breaks-based genres like breakbeat and drum and bass, breaks are not necessary for this genre. The most notable producers in the early era are RP Boo, who is generally agreed to be the genre's creator, and DJ Rashad.
Footwork has become much more internationalized in the 2010s and mixed with a variety of genres, most notably with drum and bass, hardcore, and various post-club developments from the decade. One major subgenre is footwork jungle, which combines it with drum and bass programming and breaks, and was developed by artists in Poland and UK. Another major subgenre is footcore, which combine the genre with breakcore and its plunderphonics-oriented sibling genre mashcore. Notable producers include Pencil and Melt Unit. Footcore has gained a sizable audience in Japan, with various compilations on it. Another genre hybrid is footwork rap, with examples in English (another one), Japanese, Korean and Finnish.
There are lots of niche interesting takes on the genre. Artists like Jlin and Five Star Hotel created noisier and more industrial tracks, with the latter combining it with power noise and trap. Vapor musicians such as Vaperror and Acetantina has also created vaporwave-influenced footwork. There are also plenty of artists mixing folk and regional genres in footwork. For example, Japanese group Satanicpornocultshop combines it with East Asian folk music on The Shipboard Gardener, Indonesian-American producer Please combines it with gamelan and dangdut koplo on Bekerja Indo, and Moroccan producer Guedra Guedra combines it with North African music.
All this, and I haven't even mentioned what happens when Vocaloids get added to the mix! Here I very much have to give a shoutout to the producer voltex, whose albums feel like a robot catgirl singing and dancing in mid-air. (Which is to say that the music is quite atmospheric and surreal.)
Some Chinese artists making this style are Damacha (on the album Tuhaojin) and Petty Tyrants Meatball (who primarily makes hardcore breaks and jungle but have footwork influences). You can also hear influences of this genre in albums from post-club labels such as Svbkvlt or Do Hits.
(This list has a bunch of juke tracks on it, consider it a bonus and not me being too lazy to differenciate between the two.)
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Bonus:
- II-L (まかろに☆けちゃっぷ) created their own style of psytrance-influenced footwork on their Mission Sputnik series. Later releases add Kirby synths.
- There are albums like The Neurobiology of Moral Decision Making and Foxconn: Trios, which, while created as an experiment in generative music and MIDI technology respectively, ends up having footwork-esque rhythms.
- For a quick overview of the early 2010s Japanese scene, I recommend this free 45-track compilation. This article from Vice is a must read, especially as it talks about the Japanese scene's importance on the history of the genre.
- And for people who thinks that this genre doesn't appeal to the video gaming crowd, here's a free 37-track compilation (with a few other genres) from 2014 by a video game podcast. Yeah, turns out many underground musicians making cool new genres are also gamers!
- On a side note, that podcast has a surprisingly good grasp on underground music. They've talked about the underground regional genres gqom (South Africa), mahraganat (Egypt), gorge (Japan) and skweee (Finland and Sweden) in 2014 and 2015, before big-name music publications even thought about covering them.
- Planet Mu's first Bangs & Works compilation is an excellent overview of the early Chicago scene. The follow-up volume is recommended too as a look at what was considered new in the Chicago scene in early 2010s.
- Oh, and RP Boo also collaborated with an improv music artist, cuz why not.
- stuff I like
Working on this.
(I might separate the two genres since there's actually a lot of developments I want to talk about. The gist is that post-metal is metal that focuses on atmosphere and texture over melody, technical playing or soloing, and blackgaze is black metal with a hazy, ethereal, shoegaze-influenced sound. Shoegaze influences can also be added to death metal to make deathgaze, or post-metal to make doomgaze. There's also the term metalgaze which only weirdo PR guys use. With that said, those are crossover genres, and there are many bands in those genres that I feel are more post-rock or shoegaze than metal.)
Some Chinese bands making these genres: Dopamine, 虚症 (Asthenia), Reverie Noire, 虚极 (Bliss-Illusion). Deng from Dopamine is the owner of the label Pest Productions, which releases quite a few albums from blackgaze bands around the world.
this article on Weibo talks about other bands
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Bonus:
- Brazilian blackgaze/post-rock/depressive breakcore artist F1D31 has a remix of Pierrot of the Star-Spangled Banner.
- Scottish blackgaze/trip hop/EDM artist Magogaio has a remix of Tonight Stars An Easygoing Egoist. It's not blackgaze though. Their demo is on this wiki because of it, though for obvious reasons their more recent works aren't.
- On the topic of "people who made a Touhou remix who also did blackgaze (but the remix itself isn't blackgaze)", Brazilian multigenre artist Astrophysics has a synthwave remix of Tiny Little Adiantum and a darksynth remix of ALR's Bad Apple!! and dabbled with mixing blackgaze and vaporwave on their early albums. When I say multigenre I mean it - beyond the genres listed above, they also make synthpop, post-punk, drum and bass, goth EDM and baile funk.
- If you want to talk about Touhou hijacks, Russian blackgaze artist Justin Giger sampled Chirumiru on their 2010 album Akrasia. No, the year is not a typo.
- stuff I like: post-metal, blackgaze
- Also check out my friend's list of interesting post-rock/metal (mostly metal) that she likes.
- As said in the intro, this area of genres is highly influenced by post-rock and shoegaze. sgg from Red Bullet Sequence has a comprehensive list of Touhou post-rock. I can't find a good equivalent for shoegaze, so I'm gonna try making one myself. It won't be on this page as the genre was birthed during the late 80s, but I'll link it. Don't get your hopes up for it as it's not a high priority for me and I'm not very familiar with the genre.
- If you just want to know some notable circles, there's last little while (my favorite; their discography is shoegaze/post-rock but you only need to listen to fade and skyruin ep), Marmalade butcher (Gensou Drag EP., mixes between shoegaze, electronics-heavy post-rock and math rock), Wonder Girl Syndrome (Scintillation, mixes between post-rock, shoegaze and indie rock), United Daft Attack (I don't recommend them as their discography are about 60% EDM tracks and 40% shoegaze tracks, and about half of the vocal ones lean toward poppy alt rock), minimum electric design (Haven't heard most of their works and they're known as an electronic-heavy post-rock circle. However, I did hear them referred to as a shoegaze circle.)
Vapormusic
I wrote the following blurb in mid 2020 when I had a sudden interest in vaporwave and it's surrounding movement. Unfortunately I didn't really do anything with that. whooooops. But I listened to some nice stuff and learned what appeals to me and what doesn't, so it's fine. The movement did give birth to some of the most interesting ambient music and EDM of the 2010s, so I hope you have a lot of fun exploring it! RYM genre pages on vaporwave (includes broken transmission, mallsoft and slushwave), vapor (includes future funk, vaportrap, hardvapour, utopian virtual, dreampunk and barber beats. There are a few notable subgenres missing from what I understand, but that may change in the future as more people write about them and give a convincing argument of said genres' existence. Sadly, a vast majority of internet-based music genres are not well documented. Heck, I don't have much of an interest in the SoundCloud/TikTok rap scenes, which is why this page doesn't have a section for genres like plugg, but from what I can tell, the documentation of some subgenres in these scenes are barren compared to the documentation of vaporwave subgenres.)
Maybe it's because quarantine does weird things to the brain, but recently I've found the whole vaporwave phenomenon intriguing. It defined a significant part of the musical underground of the 2010s, but the public perception of it is so tied up in memes that it's become associated with a lot of stereotypes. For one, the genre isn't all based on nostalgia or an early Windows/80s+90s Japanese Anime/Japanese text/old statues/glitch art/synthwave aesthetic. (glad I was wrong on that one!)It's also no longer inherently a sampling-based genre as the genre developed (since like 2012, even). Part of this, then, is to find out how the Touhou fanbase understand the genre, but also to document the growth of Touhou vapormusic, at least for stuff recorded on the wiki.
(This is where I'm supposed to talk about Chinese vaporwave producers, but the cryptic nature of the scene means that it's almost impossible to tell if an artist is from where their Bandcamp says they're from. So, you're better off searching on your own.)
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東方気圧弾 ～ Barometric Danmaku Pressure Group. (2022-06-05)
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Bonus:
- この海外東方アレンジがすごい！ is a doujinshi that talks about various overseas Touhou music artists. There's a column on vaporwave, as well as an interview with Zextillion by the writer 長久手 (長久手小牧場). This is also where the 水の流れるまちづくり to vaporwave connection came from and so I have to give credit to them.
- Also, one of the artists mentioned in the book now makes video game music themed juke/footwork, with some Touhou-related titles. The ones with Touhou-related titles aren't remixes but the artist does make VGM remixes.
- Here are some lesser-known vapor artists that I recommend: Euglossine (glossy and playful utopian virtual), Yvyy (vapor-blackgaze), PcUniverse (vaporwaved Italo-disco and related genres), Lost Cascades (utopian virtual/imaginary video game soundtracks)
- actually, check my RYM collection (vapor metagenre vaporwave genres only) for stuff I like. I'm not interested in future funk but it looks like I listen to more vaportrap than expected...
- actually actually, torash posts a lot of vaporwave recommendations on their Twitter, so go there instead.
- Even though the genre has a lot of artists with a "kewl japan" approach to things (as exemplified by all the machine-translated Japanese text on cover arts, titles and names; sampling of various forms of Japanese media; cover art using images from Japanese TV, anime and games, etc...), it has a sizable fanbase in Japan. Notably, the music curation blog Hi-Hi-Whoopee released the vaporwave compilation :::::蒸気::::: in November 2012, the year when the genre rose into prominance.
- I also think it's worth mentioning パソコン音楽クラブ (Pasocom Music Club), a synthpop project from Japan that draws on vaporwave and utopian virtual elements. They're popular and influential enough that they were commissioned to make music for beatmania IIDX, and collaborated with Junichi Masuda on the two ending themes to the Pokémon Journeys anime.
What else?
I want to expand this page for underground genres that were heavliy developed in the 2020s, in particular hexD and dreambreak/breakgaze. Since the genres are still in their infancy (even if 2 years is a long time in the internet age lol), I'm still waiting for examples to add to the list. Actually there are a few hexD releases recorded on the wiki but they're not what you'd consider doujin music. It's a good indicator, I think, of the underground popularity of Touhou outside of doujin or even Japanese media contexts.
Thank you to all who read through the list! Hope you enjoyed the music on display. Even if you didn't, you gave it a honest shot and learned some interesting things. That's all I can ask for, really.
October 2023 edit: I wrote the above earlier this year but haven't had much motivation to work on it. Still, I have some things written down and it'd be a shame to keep good music recs hidden. If you're interested, check my sandbox for those.